An Interview with
Dato' Dr. Ronald S. McCoy received his primary
education at the Pasar Road School, Kuala Lumpur, and continued his
secondary education at the Victoria Institution in the late nineteen
forties. He was an extraordinary all-rounder exemplifying the best
of Victorian ideals - a scholar, a sportsman and a gentleman. He
represented the V.I. in cricket, hockey and football (he played in
the inaugural Laksamana Cup match against the Malay College in 1949).
He was also Captain of Yap Kwan Seng House. On the scholastic front
he topped the School Certificate class of his time, becoming the
Rodger Scholar of 1948. He was also a School Prefect and was made
the V.I. School Captain in 1949. He was among the first group of students to be
admitted to the University of Malaya in Singapore when it was
founded in 1949. After his graduation, he worked at the General
Hospital, Kuala Lumpur, for ten years, during which time he obtained
his Membership of the Royal College of Obstetricians and
Gynaecologists, London in 1963. In 1965, he joined Assunta Hospital
as a consultant and nine years later continued his work at Pantai
Medical Centre, Kuala Lumpur. He retired from practice in February
1996. Dato' McCoy is married to Datin Susheila and has
two sons, Stephen and David, and a daughter, Ruth. He is a life
member of the Malaysian Medical Association and was its President
in 1995. Mindful of his V.I. roots, he maintains his link with
present Victorians through the VIOBA Foundation, donating generously
to its pool of scholarships. In return, the 1998 Prefects made him
their Guest of Honour when the 75th anniversary of the founding of
the V.I. Prefects Board was celebrated by those Prefects and many
past Prefects at the Dynasty Hotel in Kuala Lumpur. Spreading his horizons much further, he is also
a tireless worker for the well being of future generations of the
world at large. He is a founder member of Malaysian Physicians for
the Prevention of Nuclear War (MPPNW) and has been its chairman
since 1989. He is Co-President of International Physicians for the
Prevention of Nuclear War (IPPNW), a Federation of 83 national
physicians' groups, representing 200,000 doctors worldwide and
dedicated to the elimination of nuclear weapons. Dato' McCoy is currently a member of the Canberra
Commission on the Elimination of Nuclear Weapons, a group of
seventeen distinguished and eminent persons from 12 countries
appointed by former Australian Prime Minister, Paul Keating to
propose practical measures for the elimination of nuclear weapons.
The following interview was recorded on May 31, 2000.
was born in Seremban on May 5, 1930. My father,
Stephen James, was a draftsman in the Telecoms. We lived in the
government quarters at 747, Pasar Road, Kuala Lumpur. Before I was
of school age my mother was keen that I did not lose time and taught
me at home so that by the time I went to the Pasar Road School in
January 1937, I could already read, write and spell. My teacher in
Primary 1 was Tan Pan Tai. The school decided after three months to
have an examination and promoted the first six boys, including
myself, to the next class. We went on to Primary 2 under Mrs Alice
Soars, who lived across the road from us. Of my classmates I
remember Lim Leong Sing, son of Lim Kah, a wealthy tin miner, Foo
Jackson and S. Ramachandra. The School was built on two levels; up to
Standard 3 we were on the lower level and on the upper level were
Standards 4 and 5. So, psychologically it was a progression of
going up as the last classroom was on the highest level overlooking
the playing field. From Primary 2, I went to Standard 1 in 1938 -
the form master then was Lim Peng Wah. In Standard 3, I remember it
was Yoong Khee Meng - an Old Victorian; his son was Yoong Kim Poon.
Now Standard 5 was the end of Primary School and as the PRS was a
feeder school to the V.I., we had all known that we would eventually
end up in the V.I. by 1943. Unfortunately, when I was in Standard
4, war broke out in Malaya at the end of 1941. So a lot of us,
including myself, were very disappointed that we didn't get to go
to the V.I. During the Japanese occupation I went back to
school once things settled down. The PRS was used as a military
base, and so they opened a school in Cheras - Te Sin School - which
I and some of my old PRS classmates attended. The medium of
instruction was Japanese so even the teachers had to learn Japanese
first in order to teach us. During the war my father had been part of the
Federated Malay States Voluntary Forces and he had been with the
British forces in Singapore when it fell on February 15, 1942. When
my father and other FMSVF personnel first arrived in Singapore, the
British Commander had told them to take off their uniforms and
become civilians again. We had not known what had happened to him
then, as he only came back to us in K.L. about 3 months later. He
resumed work at Telecoms and then for some reason the authorities
moved the Telecoms to Singapore. So we all moved down south in 1943,
where I joined St. Anthony's School (again the instruction was in
Japanese). But we had good local teachers there who took us in
English. I remember one Brother Christopher, a Chinese, who taught
me. After two years, my father decided to leave
government service - he had a row with one of the Japanese. He
returned to K.L with us and worked at the old Federated Engineers
which had been renamed Tokyo Shibaru Denki Karushiki Kaisha. I
remember this as TSDKK! My father's position was that of a draftsman
designing marine engines and I was helping him as an apprentice as
schools were no longer functioning by then - they went to a certain
stage and no further. I think I was at the equivalent of Standard 6
or 7 then. As rice was rationed during the Occupation, the
benefit of working at TSDKK was that each employee was given one
gantang of rice and as a result, both my father and I were able to
bring home two gantangs of rice each month. We were also given two
packets of Koa cigarettes which we flogged on the black market,
since we didn't smoke. During the time I worked at the TSDKK, my father
always said to me, "I am not a professional, but you must become a
professional. It is important that you do this when you grow up."
We had heard that the father of V. Thuraisingam (now a cardiologist
in Penang) gave tuition and we decided that I should continue
learning English and mathematics together with Thuraisingam. I
went for tuition class straight after work on my bicycle. When the war ended in 1945, I went to register
at Pasar Road School (we were living at 1189, Pasar Road at that
time). I finally got promoted to the V.I. - 2 years late! I was put
back to Standard 6 as a V.I. pupil but the classes were conducted
at Maxwell School for one term. I remember teachers like Chan Fu
Ho, a graduate from Raffles College just before the war, and Fred
Arulanandom who ended up as a judge eventually. Mr Vallipuram was
then the Headmaster. Then, in October 1946, we all finally went
back to the V.I. premises proper. There was an assembly and Mr F. Daniel was there
as headmaster. He was in his famous bush jacket, shorts, long
stockings and sandals. He believed in ventilation in the tropics.
He was a very practical man, full of common sense. We had never
had a headmaster like Daniel. He really had to rebuild the school
and, fortunately for us, he had been the pre-war science master.
While he was interned at Changi, his wife had been interned in
Sumatra and she had died before the war ended. It was a bitter blow
to him and he was a very, very lonely man after the war. He knew
the school and had a love for the school. For Daniel, the V.I. was
really his life. Standard 7 in 1946 was the beginning for me at
the V.I. I think Foo Chong Choon was the Form Master and I had 2
terms in Standard 7. In those days we had 4 classes for each
Standard and I was in 7A. From there I went to 8A in 1947. The 8A
Form Master was the inimitable, irreplaceable - Ganga Singh! He was
an Old Boy and a strict disciplinarian, keen on form, how you
behaved, how you dressed and how you spoke. He was a very good
teacher. One of the things we had to do was to keep the
school clean and tidy. This was Daniel's dictum - no litter. Every
Assembly on Mondays, the classroom that looked cleanest, that had
the best polished brass hinges, was awarded a little plaque. During
my one year in 8A, invariably, every Monday, Standard 8A won the
plaque (our rival was Senior 4). And of course it was Ganga Singh
who made sure that 8A was right up there! Daniel was very particular about keeping the
school clean. Sometimes he would lecture us during assembly on
just litter. He lived on the premises in the end room on the first
floor of the science wing. I went into his room only once. He had
his bed, books and desk there. I guess he must have bathed
downstairs. He was a Spartan kind of person and a very private
person. From 8A we went to Senior 1 (Form 5 today) in
1948 and we had F. H. Jones as Form Master and, after a term, we
had G.F. Jackson. Jackson had an M.A. in English and he was keen
on theatricals and took part in one or two local plays. The school
song was probably Jackson's brainchild but we were just told by
Daniel that we would have a school song. We were given all the
words on a sheet of paper or were asked to copy them down and then
we were taught the music. The music was played by Richard Pavee,
the school clerk who was also an Old Boy. There were no Speech Days then, but there were
concerts and plays. During Jackson's time, an excerpt of The
Merchant of Venice was staged - a sparse production and not
very elaborate. I remember Nadeswaran, who was a great Shylock;
John Davies was Portia and I was the Duke - small part. I didn't
want to be part of that as I was not very theatrical but Jackson
twisted my arm. Nadeswaran later went on to Singapore to do a B.A.
and later became part of the Trade Union movement. I remember that after the HMS Malaya Bell was
presented to the school in 1947, Daniel decided that it was to be
used to start the school day. So the School Captain, who had to
ring the bell, could not be late! As School Captain, I was never
late and neither was my predecessor, Cecil Cooke. The Bell was also
used to summon the school for an assembly or in the event of an
emergency. In 1949 Daniel decided to plant yellow flame
trees in front of the school. I planted two trees, one as School
Captain and one as School Cricket/Hocket Captain. (The trees are
still standing today.)
Daniel was very appreciative of people who
worked with their hands and were good artisans. We had a carpenter
in the school - Loh Wing - who had his workshop near the bicycle
shed. He was a very good carpenter and the wooden panels - the
Honour Boards - in the School Hall were all made by him. Daniel was a great influence on my life. Among
the things I learned from him was self-discipline. He believed, and
I continue to believe, that discipline which is imposed from
outside doesn't always work. Look at the laws which are broken
all the time in countries all over the world! Daniel and I used to
chat now and then. He would call me into the office if there was
something he wanted to talk over with me or to tell me about the
school that should be done or corrected. This was not often but
every now and then. All this would come across to me, of course,
by his life and the way he lived. Like litter - if there was no
bin, you would put it in your pocket and he would talk about
being efficient, about being reliable and about not only working
hard but working quickly as well because there is so little time
in twenty-four hours. Every Monday Assembly would almost be like a
moral lesson for the school. Daniel would pick up on different
subjects and he would expound on them. It was very good, I think,
as the tone of the school was changed for the better as a result.
Daniel would turn over in his grave today if he saw the antics in
soccer matches. He believed that if you scored a goal, you just
walked back without any demonstration of joy; there should be no
backslapping and no hugging. In fact this happened at one soccer
match and the next Monday morning we had a lecture on that! And
when Daniel was cross about something, his upper lip would quiver
and twitch and as he had a moustache, you could see the twitching
of his moustache! He was a great influence on my life. It's a pity
that we don't have Headmasters like that today. Ganga Singh was the other who had a great
influence. He was very much in the same mould - you worked, you
always did your best. Standard 8A had to be the cleanest classroom
in the school and, therefore, you had to win that plaque. Of course,
now and then, you slipped up and then you got a tongue lashing
from him. I was YKS House Captain and Ganga Singh was the House
Master, so I saw a lot of him. He lived to a ripe old age. I saw
him in Johor Bahru a few years before he passed away. There is now a scholarship in the V.I. which I
created in Ganga Singh's name. S. V. J. Ponniah, my history teacher,
was also a very memorable teacher. Foo Chong Choon also taught me
at PRS and was the H M when I was a cub. So there are three
scholarships created by me in their names administered by the VIOBA
Foundation. When you have a Headmaster at a school for only
one year, you lose out because you don't have continuity. It's
better to have Old Boys as teachers for whom the school has greater
meaning and, therefore, they would put much more into the school
and keep up the traditions and all the other things that go into
making a good or excellent school. The V. I. was the top school in my time. We were
good at hockey and cricket. H M de Souza was the hockey master and
he was also in charge of the Selangor Hockey Association.
I remember
having a state trial in 1948 but did not succeed. Our athletics was
good with athletes like Lim Hock Han and others - no one could even
touch them. There was a system whereby every boy who ran a mile won
a point for his house. So you can imagine what happened in YKS
House with Ganga Singh as the House Master! Sports Day was a big
annual event. The Sultanah of Selangor would always come to give
away the prizes. The dictum was - you must compete. If you win,
fine, but you must compete. If you lose, lose gracefully. Of course,
these are platitudes now. I took my School Certificate exam at the end of
1948. There was no Form Six in those days. Daniel asked me if I
could stay on at the V.I. until October 1949 when the University
opened. Jackson organised a sort of Sixth Form. There was no
matriculation class like the pre-war days. So I stayed on at the V.I.
in January 1949 with a few others and we did history, literature and a
bit of science. Daniel was leaving the V.I. that year because he
had reached retirement age. He had known that I had gained admission
to the Faculty of Medicine in Singapore - the interviews had taken
place and the results were known. Daniel suggested that if I would
like to be introduced to medicine before I went to Singapore he
could arrange for me to meet a friend of his who was the senior
bacteriologist at the Institute of Medical Research, one Dr. Green.
At that time I had felt that the end of Daniel's tenure was also
the end of my schooling. So I said O.K. We left the V. I. almost at
the same time, myself on May 3, Daniel on May 20, 1949. So from school I went to the IMR where Green
taught me to use a microscope, how to plate a culture on a culture
medium. Daniel left Malaya shortly from Port Swettenham and for
some reason I was not there, which was sad. I remember that before
Daniel left the V.I. I had felt that we ought to give him a souvenir
of the school - an album of photographs. As George Lee was the only
one in the class who had a camera (cameras were very rare in those
days), George and I went around the school over several days snapping
parts of the V. I. building and various aspects of school activities
- the tuck shop, the cricket pitch, net practice, the pavilion. When I was a medical student in Singapore, I had
decided to be a surgeon. From University I returned to K.L. and
worked at the G. H. My first house job was with David
Llewellyn-Jones who was an O. and G. He was a wonderful person as
a doctor and as a teacher. He had wonderful attitudes in medicine
and was full of infectious enthusiasm. Those six months with him
made me decide to be an O. and G. As it has a certain amount of
surgery in it, it was a good compromise and choice. This happens
to a lot of doctors - you specialize because you work with someone
who makes an impression on you! I got two years study leave from the G. H. to do
a post-grad degree in U K and went to Bradford Infirmary in Oxford
where I worked with two very wonderful New Zealanders - John
Stallworthy and Bill Hawksworth. Stallworthy, chief of the unit,
like Llewellyn-Jones, had a great influence on my professional
life. In medicine, apart from the competence that you learn -
which, after all, is an apprenticeship - it is important for young
doctors to learn the right attitudes to their specialty and to
their patients. You hear so much about the experiences of patients
where doctors don't seem to care or don't communicate with their
patients. Ethics is another thing. This is not something you can
really learn from books but from your superiors and your peers who,
by example, teach you all these. After two years I got my MRCOG and worked with
Llewellyn-Jones as his assistant registrar. With independence, he
was going to be Malayanised, and I had planned to continue in
government service until I retired. However, at that time the G. H.
was in pretty bad shape and I was very critical about the
administration. When I was a houseman I had became secretary of the
Medical Alumni Association (there was no MMA then) and the chairman
was Old Victorian Tan Chee Khoon. With his encouragement, I wrote
an exposé of the G. H. which came out in the Malay Mail. As
a result I was persona non grata with the Ministry of Health! But
as long as Llewellyn-Jones was there I was protected but when he
was about to leave they said they were going to transfer me out of
K.L. I was very cross about this and I resigned. At that time there
were very few specialists in private practice and so I joined
Assunta Hospital and worked there till we built Pantai Medical
Centre. I worked there until I retired finally in 1996. It was in 1986 when I first heard of the
International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War which
was formed in 1980. Its objectives were rather simple - doctors
cannot function as doctors when there is a nuclear war. We had
discovered that in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, when hospitals
and medical supplies were destroyed and doctors and nurses were
killed. There is a very good medical principle, that is,
preventive medicine. So the only way to prevent nuclear war is by
eliminating and abolishing nuclear weapons. I remember reading
about Hiroshima in 1945. All we were told then was that this was
a very destructive bomb which demolished and devastated a city in
a few seconds. Of course, it had brought an end to the war. At
that time it was a great relief that the war was over and the
Japanese Occupation had come to an end. But two or three years later, when I began to
read about the devastation of the atomic bomb, the fact that you
were able to kill hundreds of thousands of civilians in order to
end the war seemed to me to be unacceptable. I remember saying this
in Tokyo where I had a meeting in 1955. I had gone to the Woods
seminar and had first seen Hiroshima then. There were still areas
of devastation at that time, and they are present even today. I
had felt then that there was little that I could do as a doctor in
a small country in Malaysia. So when I heard about the IPPNW I decided to
join it. I also joined the UK affiliate as an overseas member.
They kept giving me literature and publications on the different
issues of nuclear weapons. I thought, why don't we form one here
in Malaysia? The following year, in 1987, at an MMA AGM in Malacca
at breakfast, I spoke to the group about this and sent a paper
around and got 32 signatories and so formed the Malaysian affiliate
- MPPNW. The IPPNW is a federation of national groups.
There are nine regions - Malaysia is part of the Asia Pacific
Region - and each region has councillors, one from each affiliate.
I became the Malaysian councillor. After a couple of years in the
Asia Pacific Region I was elected as Vice-President and, after
another two years, as co-president of the IPPNW. People listen to us because we have credibility
as physicians. We do a lot of research and publish a lot of books
and tracts. We are accredited to the U. N. and have access to
meetings like the recent Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which
went on for a month in New York. We have access to the various
delegations and to the disarmament people. Of the five nuclear
weapon states, the Western states - the U. S., the U. K. and the
French - are very much in favour of the possession of nuclear
weapons. Of the five, China, in fact, is the most amenable to
nuclear disarmament. We keep working. It's a long struggle. We are
making very little progress, but progress, nevertheless. We just
have to keep chipping away; the cracks are beginning to appear now.
Maybe not in my lifetime, but maybe in the next generation, we will
get down to zero nuclear weapons with a bit of luck. That's what we
must try and do ..
Interviewer: Chung Chee Min
Dato' Dr. Ronald S. McCoy
McCoy's 92nd Birthday
On 16 May 2022, Dr. Satwan Singh and his wife Mrs Mohana Gill
hosted a dinner for Dr McCoy.
Seated from left: Mrs Susheila McCoy, Dr. (Mrs) Mavis Puthucheary (wife of
the late
James Puthucheary), Mrs Mohana Gill (standing), Dr R McCoy, and Dr Gill.
Dato' Dr Ronald McCoy - 2004 Victorian of the Year 2004
Last update on 19 May 2022.